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Kama
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Friday Update #15
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Welcome to Friday Update #15!
This week we continue our behind the scenes look at how
Models
are created. This isn't meant to be a tutorial, but hopefully will serve to give you all a little more insight and even maybe a little inspiration to try this for yourselves! The best thing to do before starting a model is to gather reference images. Front and side images are ideal for proper proportion.
Now that you have your images you need a modeling program! There are MANY programs out there to choose from and they are all very different. If you are looking into making game design into a career you really only have two choices,
3D Studio Max
or
Maya
. If you are looking to just get your feet wet I would recommend checking out
Blender
(free) or
Milkshape
($35 USD). Since each program works differently you will need to find tutorials online to teach you their tool-sets. Most Half-Life modeling is done with either Box Modeling, or Poly by Poly modeling. Finding tutorials shouldn't be too hard but be sure to read a few and get comfortable with the tools before starting on your first model.
Everbodys first models will be pretty bad, so try not to get discouraged. Stop by the forums and post your work. The members will be able to tell you things you should change to improve and really help show you how to fix things up. If you look at some work from other artists it can help to show you how a model is properly constructed. The average NNK model is between 1500-2200 triangles so keep that in mind if you plan to try an add-on for any half-life mod.
Now that you have your reference images and are familiar with your programs tool-set you can get started modeling. If you have good references it can help to lay them in the back of the viewport and trace over them. With every triangle you place try to think if it helps the shape of the object you are working on and how much. Many beginning modelers will start with objects that have many wasted triangles, and ones that don't really help the shape of the object. It's also very important to keep in mind where your model will be seen. If it's an object that is right up in the players view often you will want to maybe use a few more triangles to get the shapes looking right as opposed to an object that is off in a corner and doesn't take up much screen space where you can use less.
One of the things you might have noticed if you have a keen eye is that on all of our models we reuse the same feet, hands, and headbands. This not only makes animating easier, but also adds a clean streamlined look to all of our work making it much more visually pleasing.
A good thing to consider when modeling is how the object will move as well. This is mainly for characters, but even objects sometimes have movement. Maybe sure you put enough triangles in the right places so that the object will deform properly. For characters this would be places like the elbows, knees, shoulders, neck, waist, fingers, etc. What is the right amount of triangles? Well it mostly depends on your budget of course. There are small tips and tricks to make things deform well with very few triangles if you need them like for a DS game, or you can pump a lot into those areas to be safe for more high tech stuff like UT3.
The best thing to do is keep at it. Modeling is not something you can pick up in a week and be good at, it will take time and practice so keep trying. Also, posting your work on forums can really help a lot. There are many artists out there that are willing to help you and give you advice on how to improve your work. Keep an open mind and try to take criticism as best as you can. Just be sure to NEVER post someone else's work as your own! If you have used someone else's work as a base and edited it, give credit to the original artist or ask for their permission depending on the use. Most of all just try and have fun, make something that interest you and enjoy messing around with it in 3D!
Now we couldn't just go a couple of weeks without any real updates for you guys, so enjoy these three new screenshots! (Posted above)
Come back next week when we'll have in-game videos showing off some of our intricately detailed maps!
- The NNK team
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 14, 2008, 10:03:54 PM »
We've been late so often lately we decided you guys deserved an early post, enjoy!!!
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 14, 2008, 11:17:05 PM »
Omg why even call it a friday update if its not on friday!
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 14, 2008, 11:29:32 PM »
you forgot XSI kama! How did you forget after all my brainwashing!
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 15, 2008, 02:29:54 AM »
* Prozac kinda expected this update!
I never thought of reusing body parts like that :O
clever.
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Re: Friday Update #15
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Consistency FTW
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 15, 2008, 02:46:34 AM »
Prozac dude, how come you didn't know that? If almost all the characters in the anime have the same basic gear?.. I myself could actually imagine that you reused the hands and feet. All look the same anyway.... Haha! But I like this update, this is a really worthy one for the community... You have some nice WIPs of Naruto being modeled, for me thats some nice eye candy. Liked him from the side view where his stomach area looks exactly like his!
Then later you even show those three pictures! Where we see the cool chars pose as well as the background! I like them A LOT! They are freakin' awesome, I mean if you were to hand them as your regular friday updates I would get stunned every damn time! Have one question tho. In the second picture with Naruto, is his movement a jump or is he standing on the ledge? Because the perspective and view of me looking at him, he seems awfully big for the doors behind him. I understand if that is not the case.... Just wondering! Goood STUFF anyways:)
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Re: Friday Update #15
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Hesa Jumpin!!!
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 15, 2008, 03:27:00 AM »
I tried to hold myself to not post to some of the updates but seeing Naruto hands in all the renders and avi taking the shape of pointy claws way to much I decided this time to post, since hands are very important when performing the seals.
Hope you'll take this as a sign of help since I'm making this for free to help:
based on your half life 1 polycount here is a drawover:
the red line is your current hand mesh
the green line is how the hand should be changed
the blue line is a virtual wireframe drag over based on you halflife engine polycount
Sakura hands looks ok
keep up the good work there guys
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 15, 2008, 03:51:50 AM »
Quote from: Bushidou on August 15, 2008, 03:27:00 AM
Sakura hands looks ok
They're the same hands.... :x
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 15, 2008, 04:01:22 AM »
Got to love these models...
And of course the Konoha map is cool stuff
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 15, 2008, 04:52:13 AM »
Quote from: Kama on August 15, 2008, 03:51:50 AM
Quote from: Bushidou on August 15, 2008, 03:27:00 AM
Sakura hands looks ok
They're the same hands.... :x
Just got owned
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 15, 2008, 05:10:44 AM »
Love your work as always guys.
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 15, 2008, 05:16:27 AM »
We were just talking about consistency.
The hands and feet are both being reused for all characters. Among other things... so they are the same. ^_^
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Re: Friday Update #15
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August 15, 2008, 06:00:59 AM »
hey
you can banned me if you want but i don't understand why you show us these things ?? i want to see how is the mod progrss. On mod db is a video with jutsu sistem that is nice and the konoha map that is update
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